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MithranArkanere · Mar 26, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24

A milllion? XDDD

If you have 10 characters and pimp them all all 25 heroes in all of them that makes an average of... let's see... 20k per hero, if we say that 15k are for runes and 5k for weapons.

That makes 12,505,000gold quite more than a million.

reetkever · Mar 26, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

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Originally Posted by Gli

A million? Just for heroes?

You do realize that statements like that completely shred whatever little trace of credibility your arguments might have carried, right?

If you read my earlier posts, you would've seen the calculation.

If every hero got a max damage weapon from the Weaponsmith (5K each), and I have 25 heroes per character, and 8 characters, it will cost me (25x8x5=) 1000K. This is if heroes only take 1 weapon, some also needs Shields, so it will cost more.

Sure, I also give some heroes the goldies I find, but I don't find nearly enough max damage weapons with decent mods to equip all my heroes.

Eli Rela · Mar 26, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

hehe, I see that quite a lot of people like cakes

what this thread is lacking is any 'official' response of any kind

or they are all for cakes as well?

MithranArkanere · Mar 26, 2008, 07:38 PM // 19:38

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Originally Posted by Eli Rela

hehe, I see that quite a lot of people like cakes

what this thread is lacking is any 'official' response of any kind

or they are all for cakes as well?

Gayle is going for maxing Sweet Tooth, as she has said more than one in talks, so I think that there's your answer, XD.

Savio · Mar 26, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by reetkever

If every hero got a max damage weapon from the Weaponsmith (5K each), and I have 25 heroes per character, and 8 characters, it will cost me (25x8x5=) 1000K.

Because you actually use all 25 heroes, you absolutely must equip them all, none of them start off with max equipment, collectors don't exist, and cheap max weapons aren't available on the market.

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Originally Posted by Eli Rela

what this thread is lacking is any 'official' response of any kind

Why should every single "important" thread necessitate an official response?

Gli · Mar 26, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45

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Originally Posted by reetkever

If you read my earlier posts, you would've seen the calculation.

I have seen the calculation.

I could state that lootscaling sucks because 1+1=2. It's also a correct calculation, and has as much bearing on playing the game with reasonable expectations as yours.

Rocky Raccoon · Mar 26, 2008, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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Originally Posted by Savio

Why should every single "important" thread necessitate an official response?

This thread isn't important anymore it has become impotent.

Creeping Carl · Mar 26, 2008, 08:19 PM // 20:19

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Originally Posted by reetkever

If you read my earlier posts, you would've seen the calculation.

If every hero got a max damage weapon from the Weaponsmith (5K each), and I have 25 heroes per character, and 8 characters, it will cost me (25x8x5=) 1000K. This is if heroes only take 1 weapon, some also needs Shields, so it will cost more.

Sure, I also give some heroes the goldies I find, but I don't find nearly enough max damage weapons with decent mods to equip all my heroes.

You anti LS are just making up every little stupid excuse to remove LS arent you? Your reason is to remove LS is because you "need" to equip all 25 of all 8 of your character's heroes? With weapons bought from the weaponsmith instead of stuff you've found?

I've been playing the game normally without farming and I'm overflowing with excess weapons and runes even though I've been equipping my heroes with them. My heroes practically cost me NOTHING to equip, with the exception of a few key runes here and there.

Seriously, the arguments given by the anti LS have been completely retarded. And it's sad that there's a 66% of the forum goers that actually voted for LS to be removed.

reetkever · Mar 26, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by Creeping Carl

You anti LS are just making up every little stupid excuse to remove LS arent you? Your reason is to remove LS is because you "need" to equip all 25 of all 8 of your character's heroes? With weapons bought from the weaponsmith instead of stuff you've found?

No, the only reason I posted that is because someone claimed that I would be able to buy the weapons from the Smith by just playing NF and EotN. I never said I actually buy all these weapons for my heroes. (And even if I wanted, I can't :P)

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Originally Posted by Creeping Carl

Seriously, the arguments given by the anti LS have been completely retarded. And it's sad that there's a 66% of the forum goers that actually voted for LS to be removed.

No, you know what's retarded? That people actually vote FOR the lootscaling even though it does NOTHING good to any casual player.

Unless you are a rich 1337 hardcore player that doesn't want others to get cash, there is no reason to oppose the removal of the LS.

And don't give me the inflation crap because we all know it's nonsense. The prices of almost everything were low even before the scaling, and the LS only brought them up (Until, of course, the Exemption List came).

DivineEnvoy · Mar 26, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

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Originally Posted by reetkever

If you read my earlier posts, you would've seen the calculation.

If every hero got a max damage weapon from the Weaponsmith (5K each), and I have 25 heroes per character, and 8 characters, it will cost me (25x8x5=) 1000K. This is if heroes only take 1 weapon, some also needs Shields, so it will cost more.

Sure, I also give some heroes the goldies I find, but I don't find nearly enough max damage weapons with decent mods to equip all my heroes.

First of all, have you ever heard of green items? They drop nearly everywhere in the game, and you can also get a few when you beat Factions or Nightfall. Unwanted greens also go for 1k each. Why in the world would you purchase the weapons from Weaponsmith for 5k each, especially when those weapons don't have any mods?

Secondly, why in the world would you need to equip all 25 heroes for all 8 of your characters? It's not like you are going to use all these heroes, let alone all 200 of these heroes over 8 characters.

Lastly, I strongly advise you to get a financial adviser.

creelie · Mar 26, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by reetkever

And don't give me the inflation crap because we all know it's nonsense. The prices of almost everything were low even before the scaling, and the LS only brought them up (Until, of course, the Exemption List came).

That's just not true. You have selective memory. All the vigor runes were WAY more expensive way back when. I distinctly remember paying 40k for a superior vigor rune.

MithranArkanere · Mar 26, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

There is no need to separate even more 'high-end' market and non-trade market.

Currently, the way to get 'the' cash is trading with rares. More time killing stuff alone should not be the way to get more cash.

It is true that was quite nice to get quick K by forming some Verming before HM was added.

But now that HM is here, there is no need for that.

tmakinen · Mar 26, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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Originally Posted by Creeping Carl

Seriously, the arguments given by the anti LS have been completely retarded.

Quite honestly, cogent in-depth analysis of the issue, problems and possible solutions has been quite sparse on either side of the fence. Color me surprised - not. I'm not anti or pro anything, but I know that there is a problem with the economy that LS didn't adress but instead only sweeped under the rug. The only thing that is quite certain is that a solution won't present itself through ad hominem attacks, regardless of how fun it is to stoke the flames.

reetkever · Mar 26, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by creelie

That's just not true. You have selective memory. All the vigor runes were WAY more expensive way back when. I distinctly remember paying 40k for a superior vigor rune.

You think that had to do with inflation?

The drop rate of Superior Vigor and Superior Absorption runes were always higher than other runes. When you finally found a golden armour, it could contain a Major Rune, and if you wanted to salvage a rune off an armour, the chances were you'd salvage Materials from it instead of the rune.

Back in these days, it was harder to find and obtain the rune. And let's not forget that while only a part of the players want, let's say, Warrior runes, because Mesmer's can't use them, every profession can buy Vigor runes. More people buy Vigor runes, so the price will always be higher than the price of other runes.

Nevin · Mar 26, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Whats with the joke poll votes? I mean not to be a stickler, stiffler, ass hole; but if someone from Anet wants to to take us seriously I don't think choices like "Cake is ****ing delicious" need to be represented. Those votes could be going to something meaningful.

Trub · Mar 26, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Hmmm...
Economy issues aside,
I think a grand gesture on anet's part, would be to remove the loot scaling codes now, being as they have implemented new procedures to stop bots, and such.
Put it back the way it was...made the game more exciting for some.
And, more rewarding for others.
Casual players, and the farmers out there.

MithranArkanere · Mar 26, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

A superior Vigor rune is something that you probably buy once or once in a while.

Most heroes take one and done, and if you have EotN, you can even use perfect kits instead of buying one each time you want to change armors. Annoying, yes, but cheaper (for some time).

It's completely normal them being the most expensive ones, since they are the less sold to the merchant. Most people keep them for heroes, characters or sell under the Trader price to get more cash then the buy price.

cebalrai · Mar 26, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53

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Originally Posted by reetkever

Once again, open your eyes and read what people say. Just for heroes alone you need about 1000K.

Reetkever now has 0% credibility now after his comic post.

Akolo · Mar 26, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by cebalrai

Reetkever now has 0% credibility now after his comic post.

im not bothered into this "war" but i can tell you that equipping heroes can go well over 1000k.

i like pie.

Malice Black · Mar 26, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by reetkever
Once again, open your eyes and read what people say. Just for heroes alone you need about 1000K.

LOL!

1 million to kit out heroes? You can kit out heroes for under 10k. Yes, this will be basic equipment, but heroes don't need multiple sets/vanity armour etc